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406_SSHS-Black-History-Month_Fran-Morrison_02.2020.mp3
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Good afternoon we're lucky we got the heat on today that are warm up but thank you for coming this afternoon we had a bit of a disasters in order to start with no heat or power but fortunately we have connections in the air and hydro fix it for us. So let's go. South Korea Zachary this program is to help celebrate Black History Month, which is an annual event on Salt Spring we celebrate our black history all year round because many of the roots in our community were established by black settlers. In 1858. The first Black was arriving assaults rated the first school teacher psaltery was Madison, South Carolina. So I'm interested in this program today. Introduce the people and say now answering your questions at the end. But they'd like to go through the presentation. And they'll start off with some slides and some genuine discussion. So what we're consulting
Unknown Speaker 3:20
Hello, everyone, I'm Frank Morrison and from the BC Black History Awareness Society. I have friends etc, that live on Salzburg on and so I have been here before, just in case you're thinking, does anybody actually come here from Victoria? Yeah, they do. The other thing to tell you is that I'm originally from Nova Scotia, on my father's paternal ancestors came by the Underground Railroad, through Ontario, and then into Nova Scotia. And then my father suddenly came as black loyalists. He actually arrived on the ship aerial. His name is Samuel brothers. He was listed in the some of you've seen the program, or the movie, The Book of Negroes. That's the book where all of these people were listed. And my grandfather was listed as Samuel brothers step male, age 25. With his wife, Betsy, and two step children. And that's all we knew. But since then, I have a family who is very much interested in their family history, who wouldn't be able to trace that back as well. And another first cousin, I haven't been tested, but he's been tested DNA testing to African ancestry. And we've actually been able to trace their ancestry back to the neighbouring country in Africa. So yeah, we are of African descent. Really glad to be here today. It's the reason why we're here is because of the project that we started the Saltspring Island archives, working with Chris Kerry, for that Virtual Museum of Canada. To tell the story about BC splat pioneers It's just all in Canada. And it's been an exciting project. It's been exciting to work with Chris and Carrie. And that's part of the reason why I'm here today. Thank you
Unknown Speaker 5:18
the clothes that you see at the top of our website are people without the knowledge of their past history, origin and culture is like a tree without roots. Marcus Garvey was Jamaican, who was actually known as the Black Moses. And he was very much into the idea that you needed education, and you needed to be self reliant. And we had this put on this presentation, but also our website, because we think it embodies the essence of what our society is about. And we really welcome opportunities like this to tell the story. So I'm juggling this, this year, this way. So hopefully, you'll bear with me. So first of all, Miss can hit me a little bit about our society. We began actually as the Victorian black people's society. We were incorporated in 1994. It's just last year that we received charitable status. But we do presentations like this one forum speaker events, and we do a lot of work with the world we see a museum, University of Victoria, greater Victoria Public Library. As long as other societies and local governments we get a lot of support from the City of Victoria specifically. We have a website WWF BC black history.ca. And it has a really rich learning center, there is stories and other information as well, that has taken information and international information as well. One of my favorite links there is to the black entrepreneurs museum. So blood bags, answering machines, traffic lights, crop rotation methods, blocks are part of pioneering those things. You eat potato chips, I read a tricycle. ever use a supersoaker. Pencil sharpener. ever beaten eggs used to an ironing board or use a dustpan. All of those things were invented by black planning years. And you really should go check out the site. It's pretty amazing to see all of those things and make that connection and you can get them from our Learning Center. In terms of educating and supporting and promoting black British Columbia, that's what it's about. It's also about bringing together diverse groups of people. And the other thing is around we want families and individuals to explore their own personal history, culture and humanity. The events, concerts place, cemetery tours, as well as activities. We've done just over 100 events since about 2010. And we also have a school program for grades four to 12. Again, being in 17 schools, presented about 36 classes. We've worked with individual schools, we've worked with the Royal BC Museum homelessness program. And again, it's about getting those kids interested in not just black history, but to go home and talk to their parents as well of their own history as well. So fulfilling our purpose. These are some of the events we've had in terms of film screening, guest speakers, we helped work with Canada Post on a stamp launch with Ferguson Jenkins. We work with homeowners who are researching the history for their own home, as long as bringing in guest speakers. And last year we celebrated our 25th anniversary. We have a lot of support from the community. As you can see, not just from the Government of Canada but city Victoria, British Victoria Public Library theaters as well, here magazine, which helps us with a lot of media, IPI technology which does a lot of our technical stuff, sponsoring our website, etc. So today I'm going to be talking about the pioneers, and I want to talk a little bit about the religious impact, economic impact. We're going to talk a little bit about women, politics and landscape. And they also want to talk about the UN Decade for people of African descent 2015 to 2024. So they the in 1997, the Government of Canada said with the vibration of 800 black pioneers from San Francisco to In Vancouver, it was a national historic event. And I thought about that, you know, okay, so yeah, the formation of provinces, the completion of the railway, you could certainly see why those would be national historic events. But why 800 Black people coming from San Francisco. And the government is serious about making these designations, the report that supports this runs for about 56 pages. But in the end, what they conclude is, what they concluded is that black migrants became embedded in economic and political life. And they had an impact disproportionate to their numbers, in spite of widespread discrimination. And it's part of that broad canvas that immigration to Canada and we think about today. That canvass of immigration in Canada, we're still seeing that happening. And I think that's something that we should be proud of. In terms of the shady Creek Church, the plaque is right there in the back, wherever the grater is, that's where the plant is, like is talking about. And so the shady Creek Church, Charles Alexander was the first minister there, he was actually helped to build that church. He actually built all the pews as well. If you've installed spirit on it, we know that you guys are pretty much unlike anyplace else you all worship together, except very simple. One woman who made a complaint but I think that letter probably got lost. In Victoria, it was a little bit different. When the pioneers arrived, Reverend Paige welcomed them. And they attended church services. They're in Sunday school, but in terms of the other churches is a little bit different. Now, the colonial Missionary Society, had its headquarters in English, and they were two churches, the Congressional church, they were trying to start and there were two ministers, ministers, William Clark and Nick feet. And William Clark was very much in favor of having anyone attendance at church, and McPhee was against it. In fact, if you look at the newspapers, they talked about a religious feud. And the idea of having a negro corner and the church's. The colonial missionary society by 1861 got fed up, because the ministers were actually battling in the newspapers. This was, you know, the idea of having this religious feud in front of everyone. They didn't, they weren't in favor of it. And in 1861, they passed a resolution, freedom of access without distinction of color to everyone.
Unknown Speaker 12:54
That hiring us for skilled, educated, and yes, they have they arrived as bakers, cooks, farmers, gardeners, hairdressers, but they became landowners as we know, they built in own shops, hotels, restaurants, general construction, policing, military, road, construction workers, politicians, ministers, church leaders. The guys sitting out here, but the road construction workers, they helped to build the Harrison Valley Road. And the pay was the cost of food, which they thought was a good deal. Because the cost of food in that area was astronomical, you could not afford to feed yourself. So the idea of being able to work and also have your food paid for plus or getting more skills. They were all prepared to do that. And in one case, it talks about the 50 cents worth of tobacco in Victoria. They did sell it for $6. Jamie Carroll was one of the pioneers that came and this is his storefront actually, and if you think about the impact the economic impact that these pioneers would have had to be able to build the store, get the signage, they're bringing the stocks and supply if you want it would have been part of that economic impact. The other thing is that JD Carroll was the sole agent for the Victoria brewery. Victoria brewery is started by a German guy by the name of William sendbird. He come to look for gold. And when he saw the miners and the activity that's happening in Victoria, he decided a saloon brewing beer is a way better off proposition that you're going to the Goldfields so he started the first brewery, and he and JD Carroll struck a deal, where in JD Carroll's story, he would be the sole agent for the Victoria brewery and that's how bench. But I was also interested in what it is that JD Carroll was selling. Yeah, stocks to see bourbon whiskey, London dark cognac, Brandy, Claire at wine, champagne, ales bitters. And he says, orders from any part of the country public attended to terms cash.
Unknown Speaker 15:28
This is the Thomas waiting pier and Sons Jr. shop that Thomas waiting here started at the dealer shop. And then the sound took off the business. And there is a sign in the back. And I don't know if you can see this. But we back here in these behind these windows are two people that are working in the back. But we can see that by this time there's gaslighting and just an incredible amount of materials that he has there for his tailoring and dine shop. When his father when Thomas when he started the business, he actually moved shops quite a few times. And after one particular move, he puts an ad in the newspaper that says this says I'm now ready to die for my clients. John Solomon nice carry. There's a couple of things about this one, he preempted the land. But also he had I'm trying to read this year, he had about 25 Men employed at the canary when he was there. But the thing that's of interest are these salmon cat labels. They were unique to his business. And they love Samak and labels were designed by this guy, graduated high underground. Now graduated high ground was in San Francisco, he was ilithyia Okorafor, doing landscape painting, and he decided he wanted to go on an adventure. So he joined a geographical survey company in BC. And then, in November of 1882, an article is published in the British colonists that said, the great interior on cannabis, Mr. DT Brown, and honestly more than a local celebrity in California and elsewhere, pass through Victoria and join Mr. Bowman's geological survey team. And the article goes on to encourage people to visit bride has occidental at the occidental Hotel, which is where he had his studio. And in 1883, we see the exhibit that Brown had. And on June 25 2019 Yes, last year, we had an exhibit with the museum and apprentice BC archives should show some or browse paintings. One of the more recent purchases by the world to see museum was giants Castle mountain, baby $40,000. For me, yeah, that's pretty good for 150 Euro painting. The other thing about the labels is that we also have been able to see the invoice that brown sent to these for those salmon can labels.
Unknown Speaker 18:19
This is probably in his studio. And the painting that he's working on is called the Valley of the Similkameen.
Unknown Speaker 18:31
When I first started looking into the economic footprint of these pioneers, and I started, did they advertise in a newspaper I mean, they arrived in July of 1858. And certainly by about two or three months later, I was starting to see one or two ads. Occasionally, the pipes Congress didn't actually started until the summer of that year. But as I started looking more and more I realized these guys are average pricing every week. And in some cases, there will be two ads in there, one for their Saturday weekly ad. And then there'd also be another ad where they were advertising additional goods that they brought in by a special shipment. So Nathan Porter opened one of the largest clothing stores in Victoria Gibson Lester story said about rival the Hudson's Bay Company pointier Gibson, Carol, they often imported goods in the United States. We didn't have to work at the harbor as well as delivery services. Sam rangos restaurant on Main Street gained the reputation as the best in town. In addition to owning a saloon, Willis spawn advertised as a general contractor. He didn't just work for private individuals. He's mentioned at numerous municipal council reports submitting bids winning contracts and receiving payments for more than a dozen public works contracts. Joshua Howard is the first slaughter to advertise his services in a newspaper. And he also offered legal aid for those who could not afford to pay. John Dunlop who ran a livery stable to introduce the first horsedrawn taxi service to Victoria. And when they start to look at property based on real estate assessment records, most slacks on their own homes. And Peter Lester, who was a partner with Lester Gibbs, in addition to his own home, he owned nine other properties. Yeah, you can't kind of get to anything and you're tired of talking about politics. So yeah, we'll do that. So Jacob Francis, now, I know we're all familiar with Mifflin gives, but there were others involved in politics as well, Jake Francis, some years before that, rather than the election. But last year, hi, Francis was actually elected. So a year before it gets, but he the next day, he resigned his seat, because he didn't have to own the property. And when I since discovered later that he didn't know the property his wife did. So what had happened is that after he started his business, it got into difficulty. And in fact, he ended up getting robbed. And then a few about a year later, the store burned down. He didn't have any insurance. And he decided to declare bankruptcy. But what we think happened is that he transferred all the property to his wife, before he actually declared bankruptcy. So smart move on his public discussions, one of the things we see is that the the community were very much involved with everything else going on. And Willis Bond had a saloon besides the over Cuba suing, and he had, he would often hold public meetings. And they would hold meetings about with the public candidates. They talked about whether or not the city should borrow money. They wanted to an automate the offices of the married magistrate and I think we're still talking about amalgamation in Victoria today. They talked about government subsidies, I guess, the Mechanics Institute because they refuse membership to blacks. They spoke out against the deportation of all Chinese. They talked about merits of commercial unit. I think that's free trade. And we're still talking about that, as well as the merits and demerits of joining a confederation and representation in Ottawa. And here's one announcement about the meeting of voters, a meeting of colored voters of the City of Victoria was held at the halls of Victoria mirror pioneer rifle company last night, to discuss the merits of the various candidates. It was presided over by Mr. Bond, sounds ominous.
Unknown Speaker 23:05
James helfen, has done a knock sugar in line with the thesis that he's done. But from UBC. He says, What from what I've gathered up through their criminal record is no worse than that of the white population. And that cases involving blacks are not excessive, but not very many very minor in nature. And so it's not anything you wouldn't expect to see that fighting, loitering, creating a disturbance and so on. But it's also about the civil and human rights cases around jury duty, whether or not they are allowed to vote in elections, their access to drinking establishments. We know that the segregation theaters, it was also segregation in churches, as well as the mining claim disputes are all part of the discrimination that they face. And we also see situations were in one case just before an election, when it looked as if blacks are going to be supporting Kerry and granted their support as Douglas, it was suggested that those businesses should be boycotted. There was also discussion about whether or not it was also one article where it said that he was concerned because there were barbers who refuse to shave men who have Negro blood in their veins. The Victorian pioneer Rifle Corps they started as a result of discrimination they wanted so there's a whole bunch of men, they arrived, they wanted to join the fire brigade, but they were told, No. Doesn't want you. So they went to that was James Sophos and asked about, well, maybe we could do something different, and others agreed to support them in terms of the retreat, planning a rifle core, and it was through the Hudson's Bay Company primarily their uniforms, their weapons, etc, were supplied. But in spite of the fact that they were providing that support, when it came time for when dad was leaving, when the new government was coming in, the Organising Committee decided you can't attend the banquet, and you're not allowed to march in the parade. And it was shortly after that, that the Victorian pioneer rifle company decided to disband the hall that they built and actually built their own Hall, and only did it continue to become and remain our community gathering place.
Unknown Speaker 25:47
Sherry admin splat I don't know if you're familiar with her. She's done an incredible amount of work on research into first generation women. And this is what she has to say that the majority or anything just 35 young women now integrate it with their husbands, that there's a handful who are in their late 30s, early 40s. A few over 50. And Ellen Copeland was the oldest female immigrant 56 years old. So here we have, this is Nancy, Lester. Peter Lester's wife. She and her husband were staunch abolitionist that worked tirelessly in the United States. But it was because of discrimination against Peter himself. He got beaten up in a store that he had, and in the States, blacks could not testify against why so basically, he had no recourse and his daughter is also being discriminated at school and that was part of the impetus for coming up. Here's Maria Gibbs at the start is white. She was a teacher, before she married Gibbs. And she was certainly part of the community elicit a quiet member worked behind the scenes and she was also a graduate of Oberlin College. Maria Luisa Barnesville originally from Jamaica, she moved to the US Crawford, Chile. And then also we have Victoria Clanton. The clans and scheme has a nucleus of families. So it was their, their families, their Sarah uncles all came together. And they were certainly part of the community, be part of the committee.
Unknown Speaker 27:39
The committee of color leads at a British colony. On April 13, this committee wrote a letter to Hanna Wilhelm he was the Vice President of the United States. And they were sending him a donation for the contrabands. Who were as we know, blacksmith, basically joining the Union forces. The first donation was $1,500, as it says here, in today's money, the second donation was $18,000. How did they raise their money through donations through bazaars to church events. That's how they raised the money. And I suspect they might have tapped their husbands a little bit as well, because after all, they had businesses shops and those sorts of services as well. The schools in colonial Victoria three types we have with private schools. If anybody needs their kid in private school, three to $5 per month, most of the schools were segregated, not because of ethnicity, but because of religion, and gender. So you would have Catholic girls school, the Protestant boys schools and whatever. So most of the kids that were here, get go to the junior or the are sort of the boys claimed at school, or the girls clipped at school with everyone else. There were just a couple of examples, though, in terms of the Select school, Sisters of St. Anne, who turned down blacks due to the fear of integration that children would be uncomfortable. And then, but fine 1860 for the establishment of public schools, three to four classes. There was one person in the audience that objected. But the chairman who happened to be the mayor said, Yeah, sit down. We're not interested. When you look at this article and the columnist, it goes on for several columns. I mean, it gives you exactly who said what when they said it what it is they had to say so it's, it was very got interested in meeting. The end result of course is what everybody was looking for. So they are remembered. And we know that they are remembering any even if it's just either gravesites. You know they're in America. But there's a couple of things that we've done. One is the sandwich house. It's on the right side of the street. In Victoria. It is owned by John and Charlotte counters. Now, the current owners lended, David McMahon, when they were looking for a house to buy, and the realtors showed them all essential in this house, the one they showed them was a bit of a rundown thing. He told them that had been built in the 1900s. Now David happens to be a carpenter, architect, part of his story and kind of guy. And he thought that he'd been built much earlier. So they started doing some research into the history of his home. And that's when they discovered that they had been actually built by John Dandridge who was one of those original pioneers. They've since restored the home, as you can see, and we worked with them in 2014. And here's the plaque that's actually now in front of the house that talks about the history of the House, John Dowd, and you're just part of the picture where you're planning your rifle court. And well, we do have to talk about Mr. Mr. Gibbs. So happy to present national historic significance 150 noteworthy British Columbians in our centennial year, the zipline MR. GIBBS community room in the library, and this plaque that was unveiled in an assault in January 2019. And then we had the unveiling ceremony in May. Dr. Vernon Gibbs, who is Gibbler gives great grannies came up from San Francisco started.
Unknown Speaker 32:11
Are you familiar with the UN Decade for people of African descent? Yeah, okay. Yeah. It started in it was declared by the UN in 2015. And it is about recognition, and injustice and development.
Unknown Speaker 32:37
Just a little bit about the population. So the non Indigenous population in Victoria, just over 1000. And so when the pioneers arrived, it was pretty much doubled the population. But if we start to look now at the population 1871, and then going back to 1904, five years ago, and then today, looking at Canada's black population, and looking at PCs population. Some other interesting things about the population is that it's the Ontario has the largest population, Nova Scotia as the oldest population in terms of number of generations, the fastest growing population, actually, today's in the prairies. We're not exactly sure why they want to come to British Columbia. The other thing is around in terms of their levels of education in terms of the immigrants that are coming in. Surprisingly, it's just like the black pioneers, the immigrants that are coming are well educated. They have they come from strong families. And that's what they're looking for here is they want to be able to continue their education, they want to work, and they want to contribute to the community.
Unknown Speaker 34:01
So what's happening? Well, there was a UN expert visit here to Canada, actually. And they published a report. It has 41 recommendations. And this is what except despite Canada's reputation for promoting multiculturalism and diversity, and the positive measures taken by the national and provincial governments, the working group is deeply concerned about the structural racism that lies at the core of many Canadian institutions and systemic anti black racism. That continues to have a negative impact on the human rights situation of African Canadians. Some of the recommendations have to deal with a racial profiling around education curriculum around the idea of being able to connect communities. It's also about things like access to health care, and also Two things I've thought of the size of recommendations that the UN committee is making. Some of them are very specific to certain provinces around climate change and racism. And we'd have an expert here who could talk to you about that. But, yeah, it's an interesting report. We're now in our fifth year, fifth decade of working on this. And we're working quite closely with the African descent society or we want to work closely with the African descent society in Vancouver. Last week, actually, there was a regional conference in Victoria, to talk about media representation, generating wealth, around access to justice, or access to justice, access to health care, and those sorts of things.
Unknown Speaker 36:00
Here we go. Warford six, do you got that up there? Well, I've talked about our website. But this thing here this, how long did regeneration, so just change your blocks? Yeah, this was done in 1978. By the Victorian black people society, that document is sitting at the UVic archives. As it says it's two to three pages, typed on the Smith on a typewriter. But it's not references, as you can see here, books, articles, magazines, newspapers, and that's where a lot of the work is that we're able to better build on today's based on that research that was done then. We also do a lot of work with all the archives. Here's flat first generation African women. Gibbs. I also talked about James pelvis thesis, Crawford Killian, his book is almost like a kind of a Bible. Yeah. And of course, the personal reflections etc.
Unknown Speaker 37:07
So thank you very much for your time today. And, well, we always have to leave you with an African proverb. If you want to go fast. Go alone. If you want to go far, go together. Thank you.
Unknown Speaker 37:32
Anybody have any questions? For Beth?
Unknown Speaker 37:37
Do you consider James Douglas or came from a Caribbean? Descent?
Unknown Speaker 37:46
Yes. Some people are surprised when I say that. But that's because my husband is Caucasian. And I absolutely consider that my children may not? I don't know, they describe themselves as next. But certainly. Yeah. I mean.
Unknown Speaker 38:17
Could you give us a little more of the backstory on what motivated the 800 folks from San Francisco to leave there and why they picked here. And the dates?
Unknown Speaker 38:32
Oh, it was actually it was 1815. It was the spring of 1850. But there was a couple of things that were happening before that. James Douglas had two jobs. He was the factor for HVAC company and was also governor of the colony of Andrew Grimes. Now bhcc company had control of Vancouver Island, because of their relationship with the British government. But they had been told you need to settle this place. The only thing that was happening at the time was the start of the gold rush. And actually, the Gold Rush actually started a couple of years before that, but we're getting close to 1858. And they realize how serious it is. And that was known as a remembers what had happened with the California gold rush when hundreds of 1000s of people basically flooded into California. So he needed to solve two problems. One is around how do I get this British colony stuff settled. And at the time, the Americans were basically stateless. They didn't really they weren't able to call themselves Americans. So the idea of having an income here at established Vancouver Island is a British settlement. And the other part was around uh, what are you going to do but all these gold mines gold mine are these gold secrets that are coming here. We need to have some way to support them nice and the business CES. And the other thing that's that benefit, the people that were invited here were businessman. And he needed that administrative support. So that's why Douglas invited them. But what was happening in the United States is that there were disparate slave laws. So some states were free some word, you couldn't actually safely travel from one state to another. The other thing that I talked about was the idea that you could you could have businesses, but you didn't actually, and you could own property, but you didn't have the right to vote. The other thing is that schools were mostly segregated, or else you weren't even allowed to go to school. So there were all these sort of social issues as well that were happening for the blacks. And they saw this invitation from God, listen, we know it was in fact, in an invitation, Jeremiah and Nagel, who was a ship's captain, steamship, Commodore traveled back and forth regularly to San Francisco, and James Nagel accent to deliver this invitation to the black community. Now the black community in South San Francisco's really well organized and they have a community through design church. And they were actually at the church that day celebrating the US side that had been basically gotten their freedom. And they were they're celebrating, and Jeremiah Nagel showed up at the meeting with a letter from a gentleman of Pandaria veracity at the Hudson's Bay Company, they didn't actually say was Gene cyclists. But the plaque that was done by the Government of Canada says it was Gene settlers. So we'll go with that, in turn. So that's why they came.
Unknown Speaker 42:01
And I asked you to sing the project that you were involved with the best of the archives, how people might access that. And I think is there not going to be I know it's a digital project, but it's not going to be a tactile. Victoria.
Unknown Speaker 42:18
Project, I think I just saw it briefly was the Virtual Museum of Canada. No, they have a website. It's called humidity stories. And they have community stories from all across Canada. And some of them are about something that happened in the community. Maybe it was the fact that they built a hockey rink, where maybe it was about something specific, or it could be about some specific citizens within the community. And in some cases, it's about the music in the community, or it's about, you know, refurbishing or their main street. There's all sorts of stories there. And so one of the stories that we will see on the Virtual Museum of Canada, isn't it easy black pioneers. Now, the thing about that is that you want to be able to have as many people involved in it as you can. And because part of the story for BC black pioneers happened right here on Saltspring. Island, I contacted them to help put together the stories and the images that are specific to this area. And that's how we met and got together. Moving forward. The other thing about the exhibit is that because it's going to be on the federal government website, it needs to be bilingual. So everything is also going to be translated into French. Wherever the project now is we've submitted the first draft of all of the English stories, all the gallery items, etc. They're going to be doing a review of it, they'll come back we'll have probably some edits. And then it will be translated into French retargeting somewhere around the end of June, early July for to be available. One of the parts of the project is that they said you need to have a permanent place, a permanent exhibit of some kind. And we don't actually own any buildings. So we approached the greater Victoria Public Library. The Mifflin was start gift study that is in the Jamie State Library is where we will have this permanent exhibit. And when people think about what that is, it's actually going to be a banner posters kind of thing. And that will tell about the give some information about the story. But it will also have what's called a quick response to it on it so you can just hold up your phone, and you'll be able to get directly to the website. So that's the permanent exhibit kind of thing. And then from that we will also be able to produce posters that we can put up or that you could have here or whatever. So that's what that project is about.
Unknown Speaker 45:07
It's really just added a comment. Yes. How they ignored while they're gone to Saltspring was quite interesting because they're given free land virtually to come from Sure. James Douglas for agricultural purposes, he had a preemption program where you could block and get a block of land if you agreed DEP set it up. And many of the blacks did this because they came working with us today to start with or new people who work there. Some came to salt trade and didn't have the preemption somebody that are claiming they just put their name and didn't bother because it became a lot of work to do it. It was a massive job, you could imagine they're trying to tear 200 acres and get into farm production in a period of time. Another group that came from the Hudson Bay Company or I was connected to the Hawaiians and so the the northern part of the island was basically settled by the early black settlers in the southern part of the island, the Beaufort Arbor area was settled by the connectors with white and people. So that was sort of the two main groups and then within between, overvalue was developed by some of the gentleman from the areas who came here and started farming and to set it up the very first nations women and that became the sort of the First Nations land area of the Fulford Valley so that's sort of what our son was and then other groups of Japanese in Chinese and so on on the black spot here Sir James Douglas is preemption and he also had set up from the get go to the couch and valley but that didn't work out quite as well. It was a bit more politically incorrect because the First Nations that control push for that time
Unknown Speaker 47:06
thank you very much
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did you meet Sims by any chance start
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with friends there was no discrimination know exactly
Unknown Speaker 47:46
your dad is a little different than that
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Yeah, exactly.
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What can I do to help you guys you're gonna with a million questions I hopefully
Unknown Speaker 48:14
learned a lot thank you for coming over your morning great presentation lovely to sit and listen to somebody so in the
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summertime when it's nice so
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we can make a great presentation thank you also for mentioning on the web we are time to be out here it's so nice to be back thank you
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thank you very much I really enjoyed your talk and
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you know I'm learning my life
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it's not exactly what you're getting but it's so close. Almost
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carefully love the abstractions they're.
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On So we go to the same place together with this young
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man looking at the week from
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we going to see that
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my daughter gave me permission
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yeah
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anyway I knew yeah
