395_Earl-Claxton_Chris-Arnett-interview-about-petroglyphs_short_modified-2005.mp3

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11.03.2024

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Outline

Petroglyphs and their significance.
• Speaker 1 discusses petroglyphs and rock carvings found in various coastal areas, with a focus on their significance and meaning.

Saltspring Island culture and history.
• Elders share stories and cultural knowledge with younger generations on Saltspring Island.

Language diversity in a specific region.
• Speaker 1 discusses language diversity in the Pacific Northwest, mentioning various dialects and tribes, including the Clallam and Suquamish people.

Treaties and land rights in New Zealand.
• Speaker 1 discusses their experience with the Douglas treaty and its implications for land ownership and hunting rights.

Speaker 1 0:00
Whether they moved it or is it still there or they moved it back, some guys took it. The guy who found it, and then they moved it back and they had some, some Saanich elders come over and I think, yeah, I think I didn't go at all times. I was like in the 70s. Yeah, down in that park down at the Children's Park. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. I really there are a lot of those carvings around here, like different parts of the coast. A lot of the petroglyphs. Yeah. And you're now that I told you about there was rock. There was a rock. Things are fast. Yeah. That guy did it up and down the coast. Everywhere. I'm sure he started looking for him to find them yet. You'll he'll even hear about it. So what would you call that in in? Since since like that, an image like that on a rock, we didn't have any 801 it's just referring to the actual process of doing significance of what it means. I don't know. A lot of the stuff that that was put there was more than likely, maybe a snap for the nurse.

Unknown Speaker 1:29
And that's what we don't know today. But what's the actual name for that kind of thing? Charging a rock or pod? It's the same as telephony. That's where I see that that name, Kalina. Carved, carved seasons or something like that. That name is what country my product? Alright, yeah.

Speaker 1 2:20
This is a paperwork. Oh, just gives me permission for the archives. That we're volunteers. It's not spring archives. Just gives us permission to use or my right there.

Unknown Speaker 2:42
You can keep that copy.

Speaker 1 2:50
Yeah, a lot of them. Overseas, whether they could give information out a lot of people don't give information. Yeah. Be going see some of the elders. They'll tell you no. Don't do that sort of thing. And then when you like me, I give you information. More than likely get criticism from those elders say no as elders and things like that. You know, it doesn't matter what you do you lose. Yeah. But I think it gives us a better understanding of how you live. I think I think it helps the world if you do float. Yeah, we have. A month ago, a girl from Japan. She sat over there. And she came for two days. spoke to us. And different times she cried. The Japanese are very interested in our culture and athletes. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Another one is cast. He comes about once a year

Speaker 1 4:12
and he's like, Scott scholars are, yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's Yeah, our sole purpose is just to educate people on Saltspring because there's this common belief on the island among people that native people never live their thing. I mean, yeah, I mean, I noticed isn't true. But yeah, we're hoping that's the reason why there is a reserve there that recognition, but then our people moved. Like Dave Elliott says that over Gandy says that sense better. That's the real car that gets to decide to go down there. The fence is both Thank goodness. Yeah. That's where the fence people live. And a lot of them stayed one place or another like the people from White Rock, some Yamo people. They spoke the same language that we go over to too often if there is like a Meme Meme there. Yeah, yeah. Is a line that divides divides. So close. Yeah. Yeah. Same thing. Love me. You gotta love me. They're the same as you go up a couple of miles into knapsack. They speak look amazing up there. It's amazing. Really the diversity of languages in this area? Yeah, it gets a little. Well, Clallam. And owl was this big scene. Same language dialect is same thing. You speak the same as the suit can people to hear there's in Charleston. b2b is clown they speak that is the database. Master communicator back in particular, all related with the cloud and the L was and BGP are the same people? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. To the same people. Only they're the American Canadian border. divided them now. They don't even hardly know each other. Because of that. Day. Yeah. The border just put there. And yeah, I bet. There were many years and the people didn't even know there was a border or care. Yeah, like you. You worked in the US. I mean, that's amazing. And your green card? Yeah. Got my green card. And then, and when did the customs and he says you've got to have a letter from your dad stating that you're a full blooded Indian? Like I came home and I got one. Now shorter term says you could go and get your green card. Now. You know, I didn't tell him that I already had won. The Green Card gives you a right to work there. You could buy a house there. Everything do everything. But then the treaty says that anyway, they can see where we're under two treaties. Were under the Jay Treaty, which is I guess, and then the Douglas treaty. Yeah. The Douglas 3d is the one they don't understand. Then when I testified in Victoria, they can understand how you can understand what they're going through the thing. I think when people speak to me in my language, and I know exactly what they're saying. But English, yeah, it's there for days. Yeah, we don't understand that. Like, I know that 3d could see my father at night tattoo. The Maori people, Zealand. And the Douglas treaty was based on land sale agreements made between the British colonists and our tribe in New Zealand. Yeah, it was written. The original Douglas treaty was written in Mali. And we knew dang well, it was written in Maori. Yeah. And then it was translated into English. And you and Douglas used it up here with the people.

Unknown Speaker 8:32
Yeah, yeah, exactly. Well, pretty nice. In North, I call it here somewhere. I think it's this one here. Looks very strange. Yeah, yeah. This Yeah.

Speaker 1 8:47
It says on all those how much money we got, and where to where to hunt, and fish, as formally. Well, that's fine. But then the letter came from the with it's called the royal proclamation. It also adds some sentence that and it says, we're to do the things is it with the sole owners of the land?

Speaker 1 9:19
The developer says just the Saanich Peninsula official. It didn't mention any very clear that you