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Les Bedocs

interviewed by Frank Neumann, 2010

Accession Number Interviewer telephone interview
Date February 14, 2010 Location Linda Doucette, Frank Neumann, Tom Mitchell
Media digital recording Audio mp3 √
ID 203 duration 42

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Outline

    Farming, immigration, and business in Canada.
  • George Delano helped the speaker build a successful business in Canada and provided shelter when they were in need.
  • Speaker 1 discusses living under a farm and working as a machinist, while Speaker 2 mentions a dairy farm and a pig farm.
    Personal experiences and family history.
  • Unknown speaker discusses Simpson family history, including marriage and land ownership.
  • Speaker 1 shares stories of their experiences in the Foreign Legion and China, while Unknown Speaker discusses their escape from Hungary and journey to France.
  • Speaker 1 learns of sister's journey from Vietnam to Canada via Red Cross, despite being unaware of her whereabouts.
    War experiences and Canadian travel.
  • Speaker 1 describes their experience in the Hungarian Revolution, including being surrounded by soldiers and escaping to Canada.
  • Speaker 1 explains why they threw away their gun and hid, citing the risk of being captured and the ineffectiveness of the weapon.
  • Speaker 1 discusses construction projects in the area, including a hospital and subdivisions, while Speaker 2 mentions working on a local subdivision.
  • Speaker 2 mentions Mr. Blaine's farm, including a barn and a dairy operation, and recalls helping clean the barn with cookies and tea.
    Local history and personal stories.
  • Mr. Schultz owns the land for the green water park.
  • Unknown speaker recounts encounter with Harrison, a kind-hearted bartender who became the Joker.
  • Speaker 1 reminisces about a character named Bill who owned a business in the harbor area.
  • Speaker 1 shares stories about their father's work for Bill Travers and the old harbor house, while Speaker 2 and Speaker 3 discuss the size of classes and beer bottles.
    Local history and people.
  • Unknown speaker discusses a golf course, family events, and a donated plot of land for a church.
  • Mr. Bullock died before the speaker arrived, and his body was taken to a regular cemetery.
  • Les discusses working on Bullock's farm, dredging in the harbor, and a sea of runaway real estate.

Speaker 1 0:00
It's February 14 2010. And we were talking to less less than x.

Speaker 2 0:12
B Ed OCS less. So number is 5372267 If you wish to talk to him any further

Speaker 1 0:23
he did come to South Korea and then he moved to Fernwood and came from Amritsar in Brentwood or now lives in Franklin Oh traffic

Unknown Speaker 0:43
when I was a youngster last year throw by my plates down the road

Speaker 2 0:56
busy busy busy place what was the name of the family that took you in

Speaker 3 1:09
the new stone store I was helping them to build it there were courage in there one and they passed away George Delano Bill Dulong was my mentor showed me how to become success in this country and you have to be honest before you don't learn to be how to be crooked with my mentor guy and he was really good to me so his wife Doris both of them are beautiful French Canadian people but there was a very helpful to me

Speaker 1 2:10
what was Fred would like the store it has had some cabins there too as correct

Speaker 3 2:19
was having Craig cabin air right and later ran up in free up in a hillside to land and the build up build build DeLonge terrace build a cabin I believe three or four on the hillside looking over to the sea and he was a very successful businessman. So his wife there was kindly to people need to be help

Speaker 3 3:08
and I never forget for underneath the trees because I have no money and don't not speaking their language. And I was scared the case so on find out but they lived on underneath it. Like my paychecks coming in.

Unknown Speaker 3:35
Where were you working? When you were living under the farm

Speaker 3 3:43
I was a big crop. School. It wasn't that this

Speaker 1 3:47
was across the street from the rudest boys now

Unknown Speaker 3:52
they owned North End Road.

Speaker 1 3:57
Thunder who farm was it Samson? This

Unknown Speaker 4:01
no no. No, no no. Was Mackenzie donot Mackenzie? Oh, I

Unknown Speaker 4:11
see okay.

Unknown Speaker 4:17
Linda's boyfriend

Unknown Speaker 4:19
now she got boyfriends

Speaker 3 4:25
that lake there was a big, big firm. This guy, Mr. McKenzie on that. Huge firms and I was thrown back and forth between two firms. And I was come from France. And they told me I was skilled labor. I am the Canada welcome you. I said well, I am on machinists. So they say wow we need to come to a cow with a machine

Speaker 1 5:25
so Mackenzie's had actually calls that too. It was a dairy following he

Unknown Speaker 5:29
was having 6070 cow in huge trouble only run that one in May sight which is that the Lord has called her boyfriend to the other farmer with a pig farm and cow

Speaker 1 6:09
Where did the grazers take over that farm? The Simpsons of the freezer that got that farm afterwards

Unknown Speaker 6:20
I was a millionaire guy was

Unknown Speaker 6:28
Simpson Simpson. Oh yeah. And

Speaker 3 6:32
Simpson have several kids and I know I have two sons and one daughter and one daughter she's still in

Unknown Speaker 6:47
murder one that the married to that Kara she's a beautiful person. Her father purchased the whole thing and they later on this

Speaker 3 7:09
rally. I don't know how deeply they subdivided. I never looked around. But I know was Mr. Simpson on that land afterwards? Because Mr. McKenzie when I met him he was already old old man and he married lady for a mistake. And afterwards I don't know what happened to him. He was a very nice person.

Speaker 1 7:48
And before that before that was Seed Farm Bernard James Seed Farm. I forget when when they moved out of there might have been Yeah. James Seed Company

Speaker 3 8:13
in 1950 was a German syndicate on the right hand side you go on by German syndicate. I work for them also and it was good to be also up in the hillside those patches yourself in the hill and to order to

Unknown Speaker 8:53
a later time

Unknown Speaker 8:56
was the German Prince Hello once all

Speaker 3 9:07
that cash is on the German guy and meet myself we are locked off the row Hole area still lately now I live in the one old age home up here

Speaker 3 9:30
she was there for a long time before we went to Salt Spring. She was the interesting person to contact with. She was a caretaker, her and her husband. They also they have a bunch we've done so far meaning and meaning

Unknown Speaker 10:06
a long way in the foreign Legion

Unknown Speaker 10:09
Wow not that long I was when they escaped from Hungary went to Austria they call us and they will want to go to France there were a number of you should catch they said to myself wow I am single young

Speaker 3 10:40
French woman's beginning not knowing what they get into pursuing I know we went into

Unknown Speaker 10:57
to Marcel

Unknown Speaker 11:03
blue

Speaker 3 11:09
jumper parachuting and talk about go to China war to be ready to go in was I was rich when because Foreign Legion give me all the money you want. I was currently the Vietnam and I personally go there but Foreign Legion endeavor to get beat so badly. So one morning they came in in a beret we were training and they told us they no longer need us.

Unknown Speaker 12:04
They said we will find your job to Marcel and bear in Marcel by semi speak Hello. Good there it was in I hope one day lovely lady gave me a letter from Canada.

Speaker 3 12:37
I was happened to be my sister live in Victoria. But go through by Red Cross. And it's so sad that I don't know what I save the envelope. But the steps are unbelievable. See my name Indore. They send them all over the place of blowing me. I read I read the letter from my sister. Which I don't know that she's there. Because when I love to country, she was a she was married she have one child and her husband decided two or three days later when I did but they went to Italian and they get they get on a boat and they went to Halifax and they have a train ride into one tour and we are Catholics in the Catholic Church find a job for her husband and so they live in Victoria. My sister wrote me a letter but they see the Red Cross. Why be so great that blender told me how beautiful Canada landlady is like Canada it's a beautiful country I go to Canada so they was very helpful people that they take me up to see Canada Canadian clients

Speaker 3 14:58
submit to the doctor check Looking for a job in Canada and also they told me when I told him we need

Speaker 1 15:17
instead of French girl she just found calls here

Unknown Speaker 15:22
How did you get out of the foreign Legion the French Foreign Legion

Speaker 3 15:26
they told me they no longer needed they lost they lost the war

Speaker 3 15:41
you having other colonies I know somewhere in Africa but they trained us to go

Unknown Speaker 16:01
jump out of a plane and go down there will someone look after but this never happened so I was up in Canada

Speaker 1 16:14
so you got out of Hungary before the revolution and all

Speaker 3 16:18
this No no I shouldn't came out

Speaker 3 16:30
I think back come out 957 revolution it was in the SEC

Unknown Speaker 16:44
were you involved in all this

Unknown Speaker 16:46
yeah

Speaker 3 16:55
soldiers soldiers and Canadian soldiers they decided they not fighting us because we went on spec beginning and they came to us to fight the accrediting body coming in new soldiers from Russia because the one was lived there with us they are decided that take sides and they decided not to and most of them they escaped to West also so they knew soldiers they don't know why they are there so may have that gone given by one Hungarian soldier to be looked at they are removed some parts look like to me so I couldn't use it wasn't any good at all so I was when I saw a bunch was seeing a big tank approaching us on the road we ran away disappears in hiding for us quickly because the gun was a work what you could do your bank to work they come and get you and I decided throw the gun away and hide

Unknown Speaker 18:39
a smart decision

Speaker 3 18:42
oh yeah you have to because you have to recognize three or three don't go through a text still read Yeah, there wasn't work of beginning I looked at was something with the firing pin. They removed it or or whatever they put the bullets in there and pull the trigger nothing happened.

Unknown Speaker 19:09
Why did they do that?

Speaker 3 19:12
I don't know. I have a chance to ask that. First thing I noticed all the people that got given by US soldiers. There wasn't work for us. I think it was they wanted

Speaker 1 19:37
so when you can Canelo renewer upward Fernwood. It started there was quite a bit of construction going on. Quite a few subdivisions going up

Speaker 3 19:54
No, no the hospital building in them intervento Weissmuller, he hired me and they worked on

Speaker 1 20:09
it wasn't 58 I guess Yeah. It was worth the

Unknown Speaker 20:15
59 I worked on it was helping a local subdivision on Mr. Hill site as you go down our right hand side right up to

Speaker 3 20:36
upper relief Hill, as they own lots of old van Simpson and Mrs. Simpson. He passed away she was fairly old lady. And they give you have 12 kids I believe. And they give each kid did you know, bills? Bill Swanson. Swanson. I heard that.

Speaker 1 21:09
He I guess he was more around ganz is the hospital neighborhood or he built he dug out the Swanson pond

Speaker 3 21:24
oh I really don't know but I know Miss Mr. Blaine's ways on when I catch up to a work on Fernwood Mr. Blaine called Mr. McKenzie Can I go down and I couldn't drive those days they take me down as Mr. Blaine coming at me and he lived in a bowling alley I was apart I was clean

Speaker 1 22:07
there was still still a barn that was a dairy farm day huge Mr

Unknown Speaker 22:23
Powell right. was turning 40 Cows I don't know how many I just went there to help clean the barn

Speaker 1 22:45
used to be old by Smith I guess the farm when you know before before grain or there was a

Unknown Speaker 22:58
big house in a corner opposite side. Right right. Yeah. He lived there. Give me cookies and tea and we walked over in a bowling bowling alley those days. Bar

Speaker 1 23:24
Do you remember who owns that land for green water some now?

Unknown Speaker 23:32
Mr. Show

Unknown Speaker 23:34
Mr. Schultz

Speaker 3 23:39
Mr. Schultz on that dinner there was a secondhand store there to building on a hillside of Mr. Schultz on the curb Overland.

Speaker 1 23:59
Even when was the otter was go for dinner like the leafs maybe

Speaker 3 24:11
it's fairly new. Okay. Okay.

Speaker 1 24:16
What about the hospital who owns the hospital land?

Speaker 3 24:20
Well, our whole mental hospital up in Kansas Hill. Oh, yeah. I

Speaker 1 24:28
mean, the new hospital Do you know who owns the land them before the hospital was built?

Speaker 3 24:34
Maybe Mr. Brandes. I don't know. I don't know. Mr. Blaine on the land

Unknown Speaker 24:45
wasn't crossers.

Unknown Speaker 24:48
That's where him to the Harper house. And look Harris was a bartender It was a nice gentleman it was a nice man and it was a funny meme

Speaker 3 25:12
when you find out I was on 21 Give me one beer one beer went upside lit up a cigarette the manipulator and go back one beer era here

Speaker 3 25:36
is a good hearted person and he's the Joker so to me

Unknown Speaker 25:49
wow I know so I jump in so I went down with him for four grope and he jumped up a throw down to show me not believing here to get used to it

Unknown Speaker 26:21
so I learned very quickly

Unknown Speaker 26:29
Harrison was he was he Black will party black look Harrison he was a

Unknown Speaker 26:40
color scanner he was I think they were earnest collar guy but he was a good guy you I liked the guy I liked him Mr. Schultz his old house where all the job done and it came in a pop hot summer

Speaker 3 27:30
looking at they started Darrow that fireplace mentioned the place of shorts the look of the old coin I find the guy is the one give me a job if you find any coin

Speaker 3 27:56
the lazy mental people people want to collect a catch because they thought there was through news people come over Victoria interviewing look

Speaker 3 28:17
at the lady went external people do in demand that that's fun to them

Speaker 2 28:33
they're just kind of planted it there or what?

Speaker 3 28:36
Yeah a couple pennies. But dollar coins in the cap was valuable. times and still valuable those days. thrown some all over the place within dery and he was quite a character. I liked him

Unknown Speaker 29:09
a lot for those that

Speaker 2 29:12
still do. We still do. We still do have lots of characters.

Speaker 3 29:20
On The Go may know each other. Today. You're going all the harbor house was going in there with Bill built Fairford here so station, a business side mouth store

Speaker 3 29:44
gas station and repair shop. A matter of fact. The guy that bought the shop, his dad was the young guy. He was working there our

Unknown Speaker 30:06
good buddy shop

Speaker 3 30:15
the carwash No no no no further up in a row that somebody sharp up Yeah, all right. Not correct his father. Yeah. Yeah his father was work for Bill Travers the day was finish that I want to share with you they were all plank floors in the old harbor house people weren't dealing with the court Blitzen on an island fisherman barbers and they bring crankcase oil old one and they dumped it on the floor and the Moran and you don't do that don't boil on the on the floor

Unknown Speaker 31:18
very environmentally friendly

Unknown Speaker 31:25
with the Bureau

Unknown Speaker 31:32
was keeping

Unknown Speaker 31:35
a small class going in some classes

Speaker 1 31:45
classes weren't weren't any smaller than they are now.

Speaker 3 31:50
No there was a smaller I think it was well it was a record class at the big one they still ring today

Unknown Speaker 32:12
same plates the big ones

Unknown Speaker 32:16
going through that big hole one bottle of beer easily 500 but they give you two small glasses

Unknown Speaker 32:41
with training glasses

Speaker 2 32:45
used to be only eight ounces now it's everything is like that everything is jumbo size now

Speaker 3 32:59
I could talk by itself biggest mistakes I made get married I have two gravesite in central I have two boys the very reason I hang around no no

Speaker 1 33:31
it was already what what year were you born less 19% 737 it

Speaker 1 33:47
Do you know this? No. That's what's his name Chris Holland. I talked about him with wine Hall and

Unknown Speaker 34:05
last but not least

Speaker 1 34:08
Christine Holonet a guy who built a subdivision of trick Nalli heights or something

Speaker 3 34:22
two guys one credit card and then the other one was they don't like each other

Unknown Speaker 34:43
that's going to convert made that switch back to Poland. All Jeff Jeff Jeff Hall No it's

Unknown Speaker 35:03
alright okay

Unknown Speaker 35:06
just live golf course as you go running it was a business the first time there was beautiful sea keepers they

Speaker 3 35:36
were very very successful Saturday Sunday was a family oriented event they were

Speaker 1 35:52
so fun she came to us when When did this start what was the first year

Unknown Speaker 35:57
I don't recall exactly what time to park now we're at a farmers market every weekend I was out to see the backfill that

Unknown Speaker 36:22
Morrow

Unknown Speaker 36:25
Charles Charlie Charlie oil no

Speaker 3 36:32
old man who literally still living the opposite side that go up against us alright

Unknown Speaker 36:40
yeah

Unknown Speaker 36:47
I know it's horrible yeah our whole his grandmother give him a hillside and he all that grow somebody died so they have to move the skeleton however there was some relative to Howard

Speaker 1 37:23
was Charlie. Well, they didn't. He was the one who donated the land for the vulgar invade church, but he was so cranky. They didn't want to bury him there.

Speaker 3 37:37
Charlie. Yeah. So I was a nice guy. I like

Speaker 1 37:45
the old one. He was he died long before you got here.

Unknown Speaker 37:49
Oh,

Unknown Speaker 37:50
okay. He must have had

Unknown Speaker 37:56
and they have to take them up to the regular cemetery.

Unknown Speaker 38:03
He ended up in the cemetery but

Speaker 3 38:10
she owned the cabin and when he crashed on Lake as you go into Christian Lake cabin on a hillside there was a lady and she was a German oriented lady. Some relative to a charley horse

Unknown Speaker 38:37
she wasn't married to charley horse at one time No, I think

Unknown Speaker 38:49
they own that nice farmer but your horses

Speaker 1 38:57
follow this my neighbor Yeah, that's that's the one Yeah. I was horrible next to John Akers Yeah, that's the one he was talking about radiation and Jon Acuff and then heaven oh

Speaker 3 39:17
a big family and Mr. Charlie was in real estate Old Salt Spring all spring land

Unknown Speaker 39:36
Why did Mr. Bullock die?

Unknown Speaker 39:40
Mr. Chilly I think you he was all bad when I met him.

Unknown Speaker 39:52
Oh, you mentioned Oreo.

Speaker 3 40:04
Well I worked on the Bullock's late gaiwan that was our furniture one time all ours down I believe one Yankee guy on that beautiful old old farmhouse was done

Speaker 2 40:35
was it still owned by Bullock or was it owned by somebody else

Unknown Speaker 40:48
so I finished the interview

Speaker 1 40:52
well for now we probably have more questions another day

Unknown Speaker 40:58
well and they are younger, horrible guy. Talk to him with the donkeys Day of the Day of the Day

Speaker 3 41:14
see out later time I work with music cranky guy a couple of songs is still around is the what is the backhaul. Otherwise I don't know what they're doing or

Unknown Speaker 41:29
dredging up the harbor you mean Centennial Park. I wasn't 6066 or 65 Yeah, something

Speaker 3 41:41
like that. Yeah. Start over. Opposite side the mantra. Adjust the road there was a sea of runaway real estate office daily claim that led by dredging.

Speaker 1 42:06
Well, well, thank you, Les. We woke up we we gotta go pretty soon, but we should talk again. Okay. All right.

Unknown Speaker 42:30
Little further information.